? Dps ?

[kasca]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kirin+Tor&cn=Cylis

Ok i messed up some where. What have i done wrong. My dps is in the crapper. Is it jems or what. I do know i need some more upgrades and working on it.

Also is the T10 gear bear or is it good for kitty also.

[Helistar]

Your stuff seems reasonable entry-level raid gear.  Apart from your idol and maybe the PvP trinket which I would replace (idol in particular).  The weapon is not wonderful, one with agi would be better.  You're also lacking some enchants.

Edit: at lower gear levels I would not gem for hit and expertise and just go for agi as much as possible.  But this is also a matter of personal preference.

2xT10 is useless for cat (and for bear ), while 4xT10 is extremely good for cat and good for bear.

But the question is: what do you mean with "in the crapper"?  Compared to a 4xT10 ICC10-level cat druid of course it will be lower
Can you provide some numbers?  Even better, a combat log for some static fight to see if there's something wrong with your sequence (toravon or koralon would do nice).

[kasca]

<Hides face with paws> i cant break 2k on anything no matter what buffs,food or potions i have.

[Helistar]

Ok, 2k is really low... too low.  I've loaded your char in simulationcraft and done a run: the resuls is around 6k dps.  First rule of simulations: don't believe it   Simulationcraft is VERY optimistic about everything.  In particular this assumes an optimized raid 25 configuration, heroism, speed potion, etc. etc.  If you're in a 5-man you can forget about the 6k immediately.  Overall, in a random 25 PuG you should be able to manage 4k really without trouble (we were doing 5-6k in naxx gear....).

Some questions:
- what are you aiming for?  I mean: you need help because you want to raid?  Or just do heroics?
- what kind of resources do you have?  I mean time to run heroics, gold pieces, a guild which can carry you through ICC25HM?

In the short term:
- run randomday for the badges as well as raidweek and toravon.  For heroic speed-up get a bear spec and queue as tank, you can easily manage all the old ones even in DPS gear (the new ones, HoR in particular, are another matter...).
- use the badges for the T10.  4T10 is the 1st priority.  Which offspec piece to take?  It depends on what raids you have access to, so just get what you can and pray for Toravon to give you something
- replace the idol with the triumph idol.  Fill in the missing enchants, even cheap ones are better than nothing.
- some craftables are good and "relatively" cheap, I'm thinking the ilvl 245 ones.
- replace your glyphs: cat glyphing is Rip/Shred/Savage Roar, there is no choice whatsoever (well, almost..)
- for heroics you want the 3/3 Feral Instinct to speed up with trash.

But the most important: 2k means that your "rotation" is wrong: I saw others suggesting FbN and Ovale: I am personally against those addons for several reasons, so I suggest that you read about the cat dps priorities and get a good DoT/buff timer addon.  There are lots of them, stuff like dotimer, classtimer, needtoknow, .. (I use a customized version of EventHorizon, but it has been abandoned, so it's not a good investment).
You can install FbN/Ovale together with a timer addon to see why they are suggesting one move over another, but keep in mind that:
- they are optimized for BiS cats: as a consequences some of the assumptions (crit and haste) may be off.
- the aim is to learn what to do based on a pattern of timers, not on which icon an addon is showing.  Knowing WHY you want to do one move instead of another allows you to adapt to the situation, since not all combats are patchwerk.

Again, if you have a world of logs link of a combat or another log, it could help to see the "problem".

[RareBeast]

Pretty sure from memory that Feral by Night actually calculates on the fly based on your current stats - it certainly used to.     I certainly understand the reasons for not recommending one of the "suggestion" addons - i've seen way too many people focusing on their DPS while standing in the fire and dieing.    FBN or Ovale have the potential to greatly exacerbate the problem.   I think it comes down to the individual and how they use them.   I personally use them, but have managed to not allow it to affect my survivability (which is no mean feat - us Aussie players get 3-400ms less time to get out of the fire than you North Americans!).   

Even if you turn off the suggestion monitor, I have yet to find a mod as suitable to my needs as FBN.   It's big OOC splash, rip, rake, mangle, SR timers, boss time to live, # of combo points, energy value are all easily displayed and each component is easily movable to position it however you like.

I'm currently using Ovale's suggester with FBNs displays as FBN was abandoned for quite a while.   Now that Nightcrowler is back updating FBN again, I may have another look at it.   At the end of the day, nothing fixes your rotation like a good solid session on the training dummy.

 

[kasca]

Ok first THANKS!

I work nights so raiding is a something i want to do but is not easy to do. I do most my gameing on my 2 days off. My off spec is bear. I do que as a tank and iam decently geared,at least noone complaines i suck. I dont even try to tank any of the new dungeons. I aim to do raids, that maybe be mostly out my reach but that my aim.

I will get new glyphs. I do read alot here and eltist (they can be confusing).

I had never heard of world of logs so i be gettting that. I try to figure whats wrong on my own. Now maybe i be able to see what i doing wrong before asking =). I be looking into the mods also.

[Arjuna]

WoL is great help with checking your SR/rip/rake uptime, mangle to some degree too but now when buff last 60sec its hard to get it dropped also how many in fight you use TF and berserk

as to FBNand simillar mods I wrote on guild forum little feral guide and also advised them but with exceptions:
- when mob is at low health (U dont want to put rip on mob or refresh SR when mob gonna die in next 5sec)
- ignore rip hints in 5mans as mobs or even bosses dont live long enough and just use FB
- for trash groups U want to get SR up and swipe but its not as easy as rogues FoK U have to have mobs in front of U and at least one in melee range
- sometimes U want to lets say refresh SR earlier to get 5CPs for when rip will finish its duration (check debuff filter mod I linked below)
- very rarely U wanna refresh rip before its finish its duration for example SR and rip ends in 3sec (it shouldnt happen as you should have de-synced rip and SR, but hey we only humans), U want to refresh rip just before SR fade or before U have to leave boss and lets say clear trash or boss goes air
Once U feel rotation any debuff tracking mod will be enough

edit:
shame I cant play in US, wish ppl in my battle group was so kind, could write book about complains in random HC have ppl on server, LK25 slayers, who though feral with 47k unbuffed health in bear is not enough for solo tanking Ignis 10man for weekly.

[Maulrush]

No one mentioned BadKitty...  BadKitty fixes the single most glaring problem with feral DPS, which is the Blizzard UI.  It puts all your buffs and debuffs in one single place on the screen, as easily viewable timer bars.  Personally I think this is the very first and most basic thing a new feral should try, before trying any of the move-suggester algorithms.  The problem with 'learning' from the move-suggester algorithms is that you have to understand why it is suggesting what it suggests, because they aren't really teaching you anything.  To me they're best for polishing up your skills, and learning from the differences where it suggests one thing and you thought otherwise.  For learning ferals, being able to properly see and understand the timers via BadKitty and alternative timer bar mods is I think the single largest boost in understanding and improving feral DPS that they can get, particularly learning to juggle the Savage Roar and Rip balls.

The 2k dps - are you talking in 5-mans?  You might be single-target DPSing in 5's - just use Swipe as much as you can (any pull with more than 2 mobs, pretty much, except the last two ICC-5's where you should focus-fire the harder groups).  You'll find that will jack up your DPS to some silly numbers, and its as simple as positioning yourself so everything is in front of you, and mashing the same button over and over.  Save Berzerk-Swipe for the 'big' packs of mobs for really silly numbers.  For a real measure of your DPS though, try pounding on the level 80 elite training dummy and report that DPS.  That's a good way to get your baseline, pre-buff raid damage for single targets.