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(14.5.2008)
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Darke
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Re: Report Here : Missing and incorrectly evaluated items
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Reply #15 on:
July 08, 2008, 11:04:32 AM »
The
[Cloak of Unforgivable Sin]
is missing still, drops off Kil'jaeden. Weighting should bring it in above
[Shadowmoon Destroyer's Drape]
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protoon
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Re: Report Here : Missing and incorrectly evaluated items
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Reply #16 on:
July 22, 2008, 04:43:34 PM »
Hi there,
Can i ask you why i cant find this trinket in the list?
Ashtongue Talisman of Equilibrium (exalted ashtongue, black temple)
40% chance on Mutilation to have +140 strength isnt so bad :p
In cat form, it's up nearly all the time
Protoon
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wickedclaw
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Re: Report Here : Missing and incorrectly evaluated items
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July 22, 2008, 05:03:37 PM »
Quote from: protoon on July 22, 2008, 04:43:34 PM
Hi there,
Can i ask you why i cant find this trinket in the list?
Ashtongue Talisman of Equilibrium (exalted ashtongue, black temple)
40% chance on Mutilation to have +140 strength isnt so bad :p
In cat form, it's up nearly all the time
Protoon
I think you mean Mangle, but it might be a translation difference.
[Ashtongue Talisman of Equilibrium]
is fairly terrible. It's a 40% chance every 12 seconds to get a 140 strength buff. I think someone else pointed it out earlier.
Sadly, even if it does proc, it won't buff Rip due to its cooldown. So 140 strength for 8 seconds out of 12 seconds averages to 93.33 strength. It only applies to roughly 70% of our total damage (not up for Rip which is 30%), so it's only worth 65.33 strength if it were up after every mangle. But it only procs 40% of the time, so that makes it worth 26.13 strength. That is about 59.2 kitty points, which is worse than all the green questing trinkets from Outlands.
I can understand not needing on the list as it's so low. Though, for completeness sake (so people know how terrible the trinket really is), I can see needing it on the list. It might be a pain, though, for Emmerald to manually add it.
Emmerald: Thanks for the comprehensive answer. That helps me as well. I'm not sure why it isn't there, I have to check it out one of these days.
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protoon
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Re: Report Here : Missing and incorrectly evaluated items
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Reply #18 on:
July 22, 2008, 08:46:25 PM »
With my 1st T6 bonus, my mangle costs me 35energy. Which is very low indeed.
I use a lot "mutilation" (french translation for Mangle).
And when i cast "mangle" 2-3 times in a row, the proc is always on. Which is a lot in attack power.
I never saw a cooldown.
Sometimes, when the proc is up, and 2-3 sec left out of 8seconds, 1 mangle and the proc goes up to 8 sec again
So this one is always on when i cast mangle enough times in a row.
I find this dps interesting.
Protoon, EU Dalaran
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Emmerald
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Re: Report Here : Missing and incorrectly evaluated items
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Reply #19 on:
July 23, 2008, 01:56:36 AM »
Protoon and Wicked, please continue the discussion in another thread. I wish to keep this thread solely for error reports (although an explanation here and there won't hurt anyone).
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majestros
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Re: Report Here : Missing and incorrectly evaluated items
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Reply #20 on:
September 04, 2008, 11:34:31 PM »
I noticed that someone said this back in may, but the Stormpike Insignia isn't in the the list. At least the rank 6 one has 24 dodge rating and 8 health hp5 so it's better than many items on the list.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Stormpike_Insignia_Rank_6
Thanks for an awesome website.
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Thehoof
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Re: Report Here : Missing and incorrectly evaluated items
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October 18, 2008, 12:36:13 AM »
Patch 3.0.2 added some new honor items for level 70s! These are not on your list yet, just letting you know!
All of them are noted here;
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5963177725&sid=1
But the ones that would apply to feral cat dps are;
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41592
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41589
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41588
and possibly
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41587
Thanks, and great list, I use it all the time!
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Rakanik
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Re: Report Here : Missing and incorrectly evaluated items
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October 18, 2008, 09:28:31 AM »
Rough ratings from the "normal" kitty list
The Gladiator's Resolution looks like about 96 kitty points - not bad, but not topping the list either.
Battlemaster's Resolve (120 points) half again as good as the Battlemaster's Determination - which puts it out in front of the Bloodlust Brooch, but below the Shard of Contempt.
Battlemaster's Aggression (84 points) - better on the high-gear list, but still not above the Resolve.
Battlemaster's Celerity (57 points) - better on the high-gear list, but still not above the Resolve.
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shaubis
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October 19, 2008, 04:15:01 AM »
I found that Tier-4 Stag-Helm of Malorne is no longer 490 armor but 308 instead. This makes it weak or norfed after patch.
Please check it out.
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Polynices
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Re: Report Here : Missing and incorrectly evaluated items
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October 19, 2008, 05:05:02 PM »
T4 helm is awesome because of 2T4 for cats and 4T4 for bears... the armor value on it is irrelevant.
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shaubis
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October 20, 2008, 03:24:50 AM »
They are useless alone. The website need to update its stats. That's all.
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October 20, 2008, 04:16:23 PM »
Quote from: shaubis on October 20, 2008, 03:24:50 AM
They are useless alone. The website need to update its stats. That's all.
The lists are going to be updated with the expansion. Emmerald is busy right now and it is not worth the effort for 4 weeks of playtime.
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October 25, 2008, 10:28:46 PM »
Can anyone give me some rough kitty points and placement on the list for these?
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/october/argent_leather.jpg
newly released in the world event
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Re: Report Here : Missing and incorrectly evaluated items
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October 26, 2008, 04:32:41 PM »
Quote from: Thehoof on October 25, 2008, 10:28:46 PM
Can anyone give me some rough kitty points and placement on the list for these?
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/october/argent_leather.jpg
newly released in the world event
I do not see an equivalent epic item. However, they are item level 115, which puts them at the level of Kara gear. I believe T4, badge, and S2+ PvP gear are all better.
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shaubis
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Re: Report Here : Missing and incorrectly evaluated items
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November 05, 2008, 06:05:51 PM »
Quote from: amorob on October 20, 2008, 04:16:23 PM
Quote from: shaubis on October 20, 2008, 03:24:50 AM
They are useless alone. The website need to update its stats. That's all.
The lists are going to be updated with the expansion. Emmerald is busy right now and it is not worth the effort for 4 weeks of playtime.
The lists are no longer relevant. That's all. Maybe he should point it in the website, saying "THESE LISTS ARE NO LONGER UPDATED".
Well, we all wait for the expansion.
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