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« Reply #540 on: July 12, 2009, 03:38:12 PM »

Yes, the Earthsiege is far better DPS gem. At a 50% crit rate that gem allows you to do 2% more damage in addition to the better stats. If you are doing 5000 DPS, you add another 100 DPS due to the meta gem ability which gets multiplied up to 250 or so with all of our damage multipliers. A quick & dirty explanation of how this works:

Base damage if melee hits for 100 damage, and you crit 50% of the time:
100 damage * 50%
200 damage * 50%
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150 damage on average

Damage if you multiply your critical damage by 3%
100 damage * 50%
206 damage * 50%  (multiply 200 damage * 1.03)
153 damage on average

= 2% more damage
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« Reply #541 on: July 24, 2009, 01:07:54 PM »

Guys, pls help me with suggestions...

What do I do wrong? My problem is, that they say that feral dps is currently the best, and it will be nerfed next patch, so I should top damage charts now... I'm usually placed 3-10, it depends on the boss, but I can never beat 2 rogues. Even on a big trash pack, I use savage roar, tiger's fury, berserker and swipe all the way for like 12-18k dps... A mutilate rogue does 13-18k at the same time on the same pack...

Here is my armory link and specc. I use my damage spec for PvP, but as I see, it should be viably as a PvE damage build...
My primary role is being a tank, but most of the time I do damage as I'm better on damage that the other tanks.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ragnaros&n=Snailblood

Here is my rota (prio): (if no arms warri present)

open with rake,
proc savage roar
mangle
shred till 5 cp
rip

after this its a prio list:
1) keep saveg roar, rip, rake and mangle up
2) shred

as my set of 4 bonus is + savage roar uptime, I like to use it on 1-2 combo points to maximise gear advantage. However I cant really use ferocious bite to keep rip rolling all the time. Probably only during berserker at near empty energy bar...

Any advice is welcomed to beat them. My dps is only around 4k - 4,5k on single target... Rogues go up to 5-6k at the same time.

I have access to many of the top-end items, as we farm Yogg Sharon and doing hard modes atm.

Thanks,

Snail
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« Reply #542 on: July 27, 2009, 06:25:02 PM »

Guys, pls help me with suggestions...

What do I do wrong? My problem is, that they say that feral dps is currently the best, and it will be nerfed next patch, so I should top damage charts now... I'm usually placed 3-10, it depends on the boss, but I can never beat 2 rogues. Even on a big trash pack, I use savage roar, tiger's fury, berserker and swipe all the way for like 12-18k dps... A mutilate rogue does 13-18k at the same time on the same pack...

Here is my armory link and specc. I use my damage spec for PvP, but as I see, it should be viably as a PvE damage build...
My primary role is being a tank, but most of the time I do damage as I'm better on damage that the other tanks.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ragnaros&n=Snailblood

Here is my rota (prio): (if no arms warri present)

open with rake,
proc savage roar
mangle
shred till 5 cp
rip

after this its a prio list:
1) keep saveg roar, rip, rake and mangle up
2) shred

as my set of 4 bonus is + savage roar uptime, I like to use it on 1-2 combo points to maximise gear advantage. However I cant really use ferocious bite to keep rip rolling all the time. Probably only during berserker at near empty energy bar...

Any advice is welcomed to beat them. My dps is only around 4k - 4,5k on single target... Rogues go up to 5-6k at the same time.

I have access to many of the top-end items, as we farm Yogg Sharon and doing hard modes atm.

Thanks,

Snail

First thing i would do is get a spec that is 0/55/16 to get all the dps talents.   Looked at your armory and your hit trinket is kind of weak.

Have the crafted boots made.   Gem for Armor pen.  Make sure you position yourself to shed on all fights you can.
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« Reply #543 on: July 28, 2009, 05:57:08 PM »

@Snailblood Some Tips from my side:

1. Replace your mangle Glyph with the Shred Glyphe
2. Respecc to full DPS, which means no Brutal Impact, no Nuturing Instincts, no infected wounds, no Primal Tenacity
 go for Natural and Master Shapeshifter, Primal Precision and imp Mangle
3. Try getting Ulduar 10 XT-Hardmode Bracers (should kill the hit gap)
4. Winter's Icy Embrace instead of T8 chest or better Yogg 25 Hardmode Legs (Legguards of Cunning Deception)
5. Try to get Mjolnir Runestone Thorim 10 Hardmode Drop or Grimtoll for the PvP Trinket.

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« Reply #544 on: July 28, 2009, 07:25:27 PM »

Hey gang, trying to tweak to beat a pesky lock out of top dps on some bosses.  I am missing a few drops like the T8.5 shoulders so I don't have my 4pc.  Some bosses just never drop what I need, like the Leviathon Wrists, a new Trinky ot two, The T8.5 shoulders.  We still haven't downed Hodir hard, so the cape is not accessible yet.  I am waiting to get my T8.5 shoulders before I tweak the shoulder gems, the T8.5 helm is in my bag.  I have the crafted belt, but I use that for Tanking.

I have been lazy about farming the Dark Moon Card, which is an obvious upgrade, but let me know what you think.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dark+Iron&n=Taurentone
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« Reply #545 on: September 14, 2009, 07:47:27 PM »

Another gear decision coming up.  i'm sitting at 18 triumph badges and wondering which to go for first.

http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=us.aggramar.morghan#inventory

Should I get the 30 triumph shoulders/gloves?  [Malfurion's Shoulderpads of Conquest]  [Malfurion's Handgrips of Conquest]

or pick up the 25 triumph idol   [Idol of Mutilation]

(note all my triumph's are coming from daily heroics at a slow pace since my guild is not running 10-ToC yet)

/cough

Any suggestions would be greatyl appreciated.
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« Reply #546 on: September 18, 2009, 09:49:58 PM »

I'd get the Idol (and did). You could always get lucky and get picked up into a 25-man group for one night and end up with a trophy for getting a T9 piece of Triumph rather than of Conquest. (And myself, I'm going for shoulders next since it's the only piece of T8/8.5 that I lack, the pants being the only piece that's 10-man T8 instead of 25-man, and I don't want to lose 4T8 bonus until I'm getting 2T9 to make up for it.)
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« Reply #547 on: September 19, 2009, 12:57:15 AM »

I went for the idol first.  Then I saved my badges till I had 75 (about which time I got a trophy).   Now I am saving another 75 in case I get another trophy.  As soon as I get to 110 though, i'll be buying the ring.   Mind you, these decisions will be heavily impacted by what you are currenly wearing.   I was coming at it from full T8.5 or better.  If you have worse gear, then the tier pieces will be much bigger upgrades of course.


With a bit of luck next raid night, I might have a shot at some iLvl 258 gear - we got Icehowl to about 30% last time and are getting closer and closerto getting him down - We have had 1.5 full nights of wiping on the encounter and I am loving it!!    We are continually improving and getting closer and when we finally get it down the feeling is going to be 10 times better than most of the other lolfights we've had lately.    Just like the old days!

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« Reply #548 on: December 11, 2009, 07:27:28 PM »

I'm not sure if it's just me or I'm using RAWR wrong.  But it seems to rank the T8.5 head/chest combo very high for me in my current gear.  Is that set bonus that impressive for kitty DPS or is it just me?

Short of adding like the lvl 264 T10 helm or another helm from the next wing of ICC to be released it's telling me to keep the T8.5

Any comments/suggestions or explanation would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aggramar&cn=Morghan&gn=The+Committed
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« Reply #549 on: December 12, 2009, 12:10:51 AM »

Yes the set bonus is really good.     Pre-Icecrown, you needed pretty much 4pc T9(245) to make it worth dropping 2pcT8.   

In Rawr, in the camparison pane, you can select Buffs -> Set bonuses  and see how much each set bonus is worth.  For me the 2pcT8 bonus is worth over 200 DPS - takes a lot of extra stats to make up that amount.   While you are there though - have a look at how much the 4pcT10 bonus is worth - for my current gear, it is worth over 700DPS!!   Can't wait to collect those emblems!

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« Reply #550 on: December 14, 2009, 06:05:10 PM »

for me the set bonuses are greyed out and not changeable.
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« Reply #551 on: December 15, 2009, 11:48:20 PM »

In the buffs panel they are as they are determined by what you are actually wearing.

To see the value, go to the panel on the right where it says "slot:gear", click there and select buffs -> Set bonuses.    It lists all the different set bonuses from the different tiers and shows how much they would be for your gear.

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« Reply #552 on: July 29, 2010, 12:13:17 AM »

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kirin+Tor&cn=Cylis

Ok iam very much in need of help! I dont know whats wrong. My dps sucks. I know i need some more upgrades but somethings wrong. Please can you point out what i need to fix.

Second i got enought frosts to buy a chest. Is T10 bear gear? Thats what it looks like.
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« Reply #553 on: July 29, 2010, 01:03:20 AM »

Bit hard to tell from the armory, but your enchants and gems are a mix of DPS and tanking stuff.   Also, some of the gems are not the best for druids - eg. Agi gems are better than AP gems.   From the gear side of things your best bet is to use Rawr to optimise your gear.

Follow this guide to get started.



By far the biggest potential for reducing your DPS is your "rotation".   There are so many little ways to lose DPS and they can add up to a lot.   There are a couple of different "suggestion" mods out there that show you what you should be pressing when.    Don't get tunnel vision on them or you will start dieing in the fire Smiley    They make a good training tool to get you into good DPS habits.

Two of the better options are: -

(1) Feral by Night - Recently re-updated mod which has really good timers for all your abilities, a big OOC alert, energy & combo point monitor etc.

(2) Ovale Spell Prioirity - Suggestion mod that can be used by most classes - best used with the script from this Elitist Jerks thread


No matter which you use, make sure you have an easy way of seeing how long you have left on Mangle, Savage Roar, Rip and Rake.   Without that info clearly available, you are fighting blind.



Hope some of that helps.    It's nice to see a bit of activitiy here again Smiley

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« Reply #554 on: July 29, 2010, 06:06:16 PM »

Follow Rarebeast link to learn about RAWR (btw dont worry if rawr will tell you you should be doing 10k and you will be doing 8k dps, for some reason feral module, guest it use most optimal proc distribution, tells me much more and on same side lock, hunter and enh shaman modules are quite accurate) it will give you advices about gear

And as Rare suggested rotation is most important and since our is quite complicate if you fuck up you loose much more than other classes. http://www.wowwiki.com/Feral_DPS_guide should give you all info you need

From begin can tell you have really weird gems, also you are over hit cap (while still using hit gems) no glyphs, not best possible talents. All should be fixed if you use RAWR and read dps guide

4pT10 is that good that gemmed (STA all the way) and enchanted for tanking feral do same dmg in kitty as in 264lvl gemmed and enchanted for dps non-set gear

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